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i was in kentucky over christmas and saw a bumper sticker that said, i am the nra and i vote. and they will on this issue. we'll get a quick break. we'll talk about the president's priorities for a second term and what's really possible. more with our roundtable after this. ingiinng] hoveround untakes me where i wan wna go... wherwhe will it sendse me... one call tllo hoveround and d you'yoll be singing intoo! pick up uthe phone and ancall hoveround, the pheremier power chr air. hoveround makemas it easierr thanth any other pow per chai. hoveroveund is moree maneuveruvable to get yot u througroh the tightestte doors and hallwallys. more reliable.e. hoveroveund employees eebuild your chairha, deliver youryo chair, and a will serviceic your chair for aors long as you own your cha cir. mostmo importantly, ly9 out of 10 people gleot their hoveround fod r little or no cnoost. callca now for your oufree dvd and infoinrmation kit.t. you don't ret ally have toto give up uliving, becauscae you yodon't have you yr legs. hoverounrod replaced the lheegs. and now evw ery hoveroundun comes
i was in kentucky over christmas and saw a bumper sticker that said, i am the nra and i vote. and they will on this issue. we'll get a quick break. we'll talk about the president's priorities for a second term and what's really possible. more with our roundtable after this. ingiinng] hoveround untakes me where i wan wna go... wherwhe will it sendse me... one call tllo hoveround and d you'yoll be singing intoo! pick up uthe phone and ancall hoveround, the pheremier power chr air. hoveround...
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what the left is forgetting, the nra has a higher approval rating than both president and congress. i think this is going to be backfire them. i think a lot of people are very upset and people think it's really wrong, but if we have to make a law to prevent people from doing things like this and using public information of people that are not done anything wrong and exercising their rights and use that information trying to harm them, maybe we do have to do that. >> arthel: they are saying that the damage has been done, it's too late you can't take it back there. the information is out there. what do you think the neighbors will respond? if there is a possibility of is on tra sizing those people that are legally holding guns? >> i don't think it's going to be make a difference. i don't think people are going to search through 10,000 names. apparently they have 20,000 or 30,000 names. i don't think people are going to take the time to look. it's an exercise in futility. we've got our feud going on. what next? do we have a conservative newspaper publish the names and addresses of abor
what the left is forgetting, the nra has a higher approval rating than both president and congress. i think this is going to be backfire them. i think a lot of people are very upset and people think it's really wrong, but if we have to make a law to prevent people from doing things like this and using public information of people that are not done anything wrong and exercising their rights and use that information trying to harm them, maybe we do have to do that. >> arthel: they are...
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colin, a question, are you a nra member? not to put on the spot. >> i am, i'm a lifetime member. >> do you have high capacity clips? >> i do not. do you see the need to restrict those? >> it's on the edge of what is supposed to be allowed. this is relatively close to it. there's reaches that i think a lot of people are going to talk about. it's possible that a high capacity magazine restriction could be done in a way that is constitutional, and i'm not sure that frankly it's going to be that useful, that effective. i do not think that those are the solutions that will stop the epidemic of violence, it's right at the edge of what is possible. >> you eluded to this before the break, politically, there may not be the will. fact of the matter is there could very well not be the will two months from now in the halls of congress. what are you hearing about this as the tragedy becomes more of a memory to a lot of folks? >> well, i mean, everyone of course, is very upset about this, and thinks that there needs to be a conversation,
colin, a question, are you a nra member? not to put on the spot. >> i am, i'm a lifetime member. >> do you have high capacity clips? >> i do not. do you see the need to restrict those? >> it's on the edge of what is supposed to be allowed. this is relatively close to it. there's reaches that i think a lot of people are going to talk about. it's possible that a high capacity magazine restriction could be done in a way that is constitutional, and i'm not sure that frankly...
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are not nearly as extreme as the nra leadership is on this. so i think there's a possibility of getting some common sense gun control measures passed. and you know, i know it doesn't look like this congress can do anything, but i think we need to try, and i think if we have the support of the nra members, we have an opportunity. you know, for concealed carry permits which they want to extend to every state, there are at least ought to be some minimum standards. for example, you ought to be an adult in order to be able to get a concealed carry permit. so those are common sense measures. i think we start with those. and we have a dialogue, as senator mansion and others suggested, see if we can at least make some progress on an issue that you know, has to be addressed. if we don'ten respond after the sandy hook elementary school massacre, we really are complicit in the next massacre of innocent children and we've got to ask ourselves, is our political future really more important than the lives of these innocent children. >> congressman jim moran
are not nearly as extreme as the nra leadership is on this. so i think there's a possibility of getting some common sense gun control measures passed. and you know, i know it doesn't look like this congress can do anything, but i think we need to try, and i think if we have the support of the nra members, we have an opportunity. you know, for concealed carry permits which they want to extend to every state, there are at least ought to be some minimum standards. for example, you ought to be an...
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nra teams say they found one active fault under tsuruga nuclear compound. the fault runs along side reactors one and two. and another fracture intersects with it under reactor two. nra investigators also released their final assessment of the higashidori plant. any confirm two faults under the compound are most likely active. the possibility of active faults under nuclear plants and the accident in fukushima last year have prompted many japanese to question the use of atomic energy. the former government said it would aim to take all reactors off line within a couple of decades but now a new government is in power and promising a different approach. >> reporter: prime minister abe is putting everything on the table when it comes to japan's energy policy. he and others in the committee have said they will explore possibilities including restarting nuclear reactors. >> translator: we need to decide our energy policy based on technical assessments. we will not start with the conclusion of halting nuclear power generation by the 2030s. >> reporter: the previous
nra teams say they found one active fault under tsuruga nuclear compound. the fault runs along side reactors one and two. and another fracture intersects with it under reactor two. nra investigators also released their final assessment of the higashidori plant. any confirm two faults under the compound are most likely active. the possibility of active faults under nuclear plants and the accident in fukushima last year have prompted many japanese to question the use of atomic energy. the former...
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it was conducted last week after the nra proposed putting an armed guard in every school. it was conducted among more than 1,000 adults with a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. >>> administrators and school staff members in utah are learning how to handle guns. a firearm instructor organized an event to provide teachers with concealed weapons. it's one of a number of states that allow them to take them on school campuses. >> i think it's important to have protection because if you don't have it we're sitting ducks. >> gun rights advocates estimate about 240 teachers in utah are licensed to carry concealed weapons. it's not known how many do so at school. >> this weekend thousands of people from across the country are headed to webster new york for services honoring two firefighters killed on duty. they were gunned down trying to put out a fire on christmas eve. the gunman torched his home and opened fire and later committed suicide. the two firefighters will be buried sunday and monday. those from around the u.s. are there for the funerals and thanks to
it was conducted last week after the nra proposed putting an armed guard in every school. it was conducted among more than 1,000 adults with a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. >>> administrators and school staff members in utah are learning how to handle guns. a firearm instructor organized an event to provide teachers with concealed weapons. it's one of a number of states that allow them to take them on school campuses. >> i think it's important to have...
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nra teams say they found one active fault under tsuruga nuclear compound. the fault runs along side reactors one and two. and another fracture intersects with it under reactor two. nra investigators also released their final assessment of the higashidori plant. any confirm two faults under the kpoupd are most likely active. the possibility of active faults under nuclear plants and the accident in fukushima last year have prompted many japanese to question the use of atomic energy. the former government said it would aim to take all reactors off line within a couple of decades but now a new government is in power and promising a different approach. >> reporter: prime minister abe is putting everything on the table when it comes to japan's energy policy. he and others in the committee have said they will explore possibilities including restarting nuclear reactors. >> translator: we need to decide our energy policy based on technical assessments. we will not start with the conclusion of halting nuclear power generation by the 2030s. >> reporter: the previous a
nra teams say they found one active fault under tsuruga nuclear compound. the fault runs along side reactors one and two. and another fracture intersects with it under reactor two. nra investigators also released their final assessment of the higashidori plant. any confirm two faults under the kpoupd are most likely active. the possibility of active faults under nuclear plants and the accident in fukushima last year have prompted many japanese to question the use of atomic energy. the former...
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guns can't possibly be part of the problem according to the nra. >> the nra, so dedicated to protect the second amendment, willing to sell out the first and many other constitutional amendments we hold deer. >> you talk about this rare, you have newtown across the country when you look at the collective desk. the point where you talk about whether it's arming teachers or gun control or mental illness, you are trying to confront as many pieces of the puz elt as possible. no one solution. one-dimensional conversation only about guns that is a ridiculous conversation it has to be a much broader, but you can't have some barriers to try and prevent some things from happening. >> you hear the cultural divide in the last statement. >> you asked about firefighters. >> they should be armed. and i think roland is right. a multidimensional problem. in 1994 when we passed the assault weapons ban, part of a comprehensive crimes bill. ultimately you have to attack a problem like this from all sides. very difficult when you have a fundamental cultural divide and a big chunk of the country says the
guns can't possibly be part of the problem according to the nra. >> the nra, so dedicated to protect the second amendment, willing to sell out the first and many other constitutional amendments we hold deer. >> you talk about this rare, you have newtown across the country when you look at the collective desk. the point where you talk about whether it's arming teachers or gun control or mental illness, you are trying to confront as many pieces of the puz elt as possible. no one...
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and 54% of americans have a favorable opinion of the nra. >> juliet: these are three separate polls. it's not one poll. so we're grabbing from different polls. >> eric: and again, by the way, those little dots on the map indicated only hand gun permits. not concealed carry permits and you don't -- there is no requirement for a permit to own a shotgun. so some of the other people who aren't red dotted feel like they're becoming targets saying, hey, if i don't have a red dot on my address, a predator or criminal may come to my house instead of one that has a red dot. remember, criminals, all you people, they still might have a shotgun. and that can make you as dead as hand guns. >> juliet: when you try to get that information from the freedom of information act, it doesn't tell you the specific type of weaponry that they have there. >> eric: or when the last time they had the gun in the house. it could be from a 1965 permit. >> juliet: that's true. >> kelly: the debate continues throughout the country. meantime, president obama's epa chief resigned and her reason? it may be just a cove
and 54% of americans have a favorable opinion of the nra. >> juliet: these are three separate polls. it's not one poll. so we're grabbing from different polls. >> eric: and again, by the way, those little dots on the map indicated only hand gun permits. not concealed carry permits and you don't -- there is no requirement for a permit to own a shotgun. so some of the other people who aren't red dotted feel like they're becoming targets saying, hey, if i don't have a red dot on my...
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sheriffs are now backing the proposal, including sheriff paul babu of arizona, who's written, "the nra is correct. we need a cop in every school. we have a people problem, not a gun problem." sheriff paul babeu is "outfront" tonight. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, john. >> sheriff, i understand the attractiveness of this proposal, an armed guard, a school member training with a weapon. but let's look at the facts, going back to columbine and virginia tech, columbine, they had two armed guards on the campus at the time, virginia tech had 34 armed guards. so the evidence, sheriff, suggests that armed guards on campus do not stop school massacre. >> well, you see a school that i grew up in, there was just one building. and some of these campuses or college campuses, as you point out, there could be eight, there could be 20-some odd buildings. and to my point, training and arming designated school administrators or designated teachers. some school districts may not want to do this, but for those who do, law enforcement provides them that training, and they would be a critical, imm
sheriffs are now backing the proposal, including sheriff paul babu of arizona, who's written, "the nra is correct. we need a cop in every school. we have a people problem, not a gun problem." sheriff paul babeu is "outfront" tonight. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, john. >> sheriff, i understand the attractiveness of this proposal, an armed guard, a school member training with a weapon. but let's look at the facts, going back to columbine and virginia...
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when the nra is throwing around all sorts of fake notions that are in the fake dialogue. no one is saying that you can stop everyone of these things. how hard do you you want to make it? the risk of the gun in the home is greater than the benefit. as the owner of the gun in connecticut found out when his son got his hands on it. and the accidents happen in homes with guns. how hard is that to find out. >> go figure. the other issue today is that looking around the web, it is actually easier to go online and purchase a 100 round clip high capacity magazine than it is to renew my driver's license in florida. if you transfer $10,000 of your money, it triggers your bank that goes to the federal government. but you can go online and with free holiday shipping purchase a high capacity magazine. even the law enforcement in the communities have no way of know ing a large number of weapons, perhaps a bullet proof vest. that might send off a few alarms. making it harder to exercise the right to vote. we should think that people are more responsible owning a gun than casting a ballo
when the nra is throwing around all sorts of fake notions that are in the fake dialogue. no one is saying that you can stop everyone of these things. how hard do you you want to make it? the risk of the gun in the home is greater than the benefit. as the owner of the gun in connecticut found out when his son got his hands on it. and the accidents happen in homes with guns. how hard is that to find out. >> go figure. the other issue today is that looking around the web, it is actually...
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the nra said last week that we should have more enforcement of our gun laws, yet they have made every effort to block enforcement, every effort to have these gaping loopholes in the law that make it almost impossible to do that. >> gun owners for offered a gift certificate worth up to two murder dollars a local grocery chain in exchange for their weapons. -- were offered up to $200 at a local grocery chain in exchange for the weapons. two down on her said there were moved up by the tragedy in connecticut. >> i always thought they should have something like it anyway. regardless of what happens, too bad we wait for something like that to happen to decide to get rid of the pistols and the guns and rifles. >> too many people get killed with guns, small guns, rifles, handguns or any kind of gun. i am here to help get rid of the guns i have. >> an york papers drawn controversy for publishing a list of the names and addresses of every single registered gun permit holder in its readership area. westchester county's "the journal news" ran the feature in the aftermath of the newtown school mas
the nra said last week that we should have more enforcement of our gun laws, yet they have made every effort to block enforcement, every effort to have these gaping loopholes in the law that make it almost impossible to do that. >> gun owners for offered a gift certificate worth up to two murder dollars a local grocery chain in exchange for their weapons. -- were offered up to $200 at a local grocery chain in exchange for the weapons. two down on her said there were moved up by the...
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the nra's position is simply not ten nabl. when you have over 70% of americans, there should be a restriction on guns and, yes, we should have a registry for gun owners and for the nra to say, well, any sort of laws or amendments that you make, you know, it sort of takes away our ability to have guns or, once again, the second amendment, that becomes real problematic. they are not where the majority of americans are. the majority of americans are not where the nra is on this issue. >> erick, let me try this with you and then go back to lou cornell. i guess my point is, when you are looking at this discussion, it's not a discussion at all. everybody has their sort of own area that they want to talk about and no one is discussing, well, maybe we should discuss school safety. and the nra makes this point, when we want the make the president safe, he's surrounded by people with guns. when we want to make money safe at banks, we put men with guns there. so it's not as though it's a foreign concept to protect what is dear to people,
the nra's position is simply not ten nabl. when you have over 70% of americans, there should be a restriction on guns and, yes, we should have a registry for gun owners and for the nra to say, well, any sort of laws or amendments that you make, you know, it sort of takes away our ability to have guns or, once again, the second amendment, that becomes real problematic. they are not where the majority of americans are. the majority of americans are not where the nra is on this issue. >>...
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all of this coming after the nra called for armed guards at every school and on msnbc and the past hour, the head of the american federation of teachers disagreed with such policies. >> i don't want to be cynical about this, but what we really need is actually less guns in schools, not more guns in schools. we have had police officers in schools and we have had met call detectors in schools but police officers are or armed guards did not stop the shooting in virginia tech. it did not stop the shooting in columbine. >> what does your gut tell you? a good idea for teachers to carry a concealed weapon at school? go to facebook.com/newsnation to vote. that does it for this edition. i'm craig melvin. we' seal you back here tomorrow but "the cycle" is up next. ese add up to 100 calories? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. i need you. i feel so alone. but you're not alone. i knew you'd come. like i could stay away. you know i can't do this without you. you'll never have to. you're a
all of this coming after the nra called for armed guards at every school and on msnbc and the past hour, the head of the american federation of teachers disagreed with such policies. >> i don't want to be cynical about this, but what we really need is actually less guns in schools, not more guns in schools. we have had police officers in schools and we have had met call detectors in schools but police officers are or armed guards did not stop the shooting in virginia tech. it did not stop...
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that got the nra fired up. they spoke with carol costello and he said it's unfair and unsafe to name gun owners. >> these are all upstanding citizen who passed tests and have their own firearms and by listening, they do two things. most guns are either bought on the black market or stolen. if you are a criminal looking for a gun, you just have been given a map to where you find some. the paper said you would like the makes of guns that people own. have you in essence a catalog. it also tells you who isn't armed and therefore if you are not seeking a gun, but seeking television sets and the like through burglary, you know where to go. i think it was completely irresponsible and while it is probably not legally actionable, the fact is that this newspaper did this knowingly for the purpose of trying to demonize gun owners because they don't happen to believe in firearms. that's their right, but mistreating private individuals is not. >> the fact that the brady center agrees with you that this newspaper should not
that got the nra fired up. they spoke with carol costello and he said it's unfair and unsafe to name gun owners. >> these are all upstanding citizen who passed tests and have their own firearms and by listening, they do two things. most guns are either bought on the black market or stolen. if you are a criminal looking for a gun, you just have been given a map to where you find some. the paper said you would like the makes of guns that people own. have you in essence a catalog. it also...
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it is a sign of how the nra works in washington. they have done the very effective job of steering that agency by threatening its budget, trying to keep them from having a permanent director. it has been six years. neither president bush nor president obama has been able to get a permanent director. host: we have been talking to matt bennett of third way. thanks for being with us. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012] >> all this month, we've been talking with retiring members of congress. join us later tonight for a sit- down we had recently with nebraska senator ben nelson. he served two terms and was part of the so-called gang of 14. that is 8:00 eastern tonight here on c-span. here is a brief look. >> what is your thought about the art of compromise and how much it is valued in this city? >> it is value to talk about it. everybody back home want people to come back to washington and work together, and then they send people back here who have committed not
it is a sign of how the nra works in washington. they have done the very effective job of steering that agency by threatening its budget, trying to keep them from having a permanent director. it has been six years. neither president bush nor president obama has been able to get a permanent director. host: we have been talking to matt bennett of third way. thanks for being with us. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2012]...
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you're not a supporter of nra? >> not at all. >> but you're saying -- >> my job is to make it safe for the marlboro students in my jurisdiction. i don't make state law, i don't make federal law. i don't support the nra, i want to get rid of assault rifles. i think we have to close the loopholes on gun control. that being said, our students need to be safe where they learn. what newtown showed us was existing security is not safe the people that rely on safety in our commune and they do an excellent job. the police department took a look at our protocol, and said that the only way to protect our students right now is to have a police officer present in the school. these are the same people we call if there is an active shooter event in 911. so instead of waiting the five minutes to get them there, they are present, they are law enforcement, they are professionals, they know how to handle themselves. the nra is using in as an excuse to circumvent the argument on gun control, and that's wrong. that's not what our inte
you're not a supporter of nra? >> not at all. >> but you're saying -- >> my job is to make it safe for the marlboro students in my jurisdiction. i don't make state law, i don't make federal law. i don't support the nra, i want to get rid of assault rifles. i think we have to close the loopholes on gun control. that being said, our students need to be safe where they learn. what newtown showed us was existing security is not safe the people that rely on safety in our commune...
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. >> that was nra president david keene speaking earlier today with cnn's carol costello. >>> hitching a hide to washington today with president obama is hawaii's next senator. brian schatz is currently the lieutenant governor. he's due to be sworn in this afternoon about three hours from now. copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together to help improve your lung function all day. advair won't replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used more than twice a day. people with copd taking advair may have a higher chance of pneumonia. advair may increase your risk of osteoporosis and some eye problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking advair. if you're still having difficulty breathing, ask your doctor if including advair could help improve your lung function. get your
. >> that was nra president david keene speaking earlier today with cnn's carol costello. >>> hitching a hide to washington today with president obama is hawaii's next senator. brian schatz is currently the lieutenant governor. he's due to be sworn in this afternoon about three hours from now. copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd...
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. >>> the nra decided to base the new guidelines on actual radiation readings. after the fukushima accident, authorities failed to get residents to evacuate promptly even though they had information from a radiation forecast system. the nra secretary is proposing the immediate evacuation of residents within 5 to 30 kilometers of a radiation plant when they reach 500 millisieverts per hour. they call for evacuation within a week's time if the level is at 20 millisieverts or more. but the panel of experts did not reach a consensus. some said the authority had simply decided on a level half that of international standard without enough scientific basis. others said the nra should adopt the international standard for the time being and continue discussions to set japan's own standards. >>> the operator of the crippled fukushima daiichi nuclear plant is asking for more public money. they say the compensation payments are higher than the initial estimate. tokyo electric power company has asked a state-backed fund for $8.1 billion to make up for the expected shortfall.
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gregory used that magazine as a prop during an interview with the head of the nra, wayne lapierre but it's illegal to show them in public in washington even if they're not attached to a weapon. d.c. police says nbc asked if they could use the magazine on the show. they said no, but gregory did it anyway. >> interesting. >> gotten a lot of attention. >> quick show of hands, the newspaper, that published the name of the addresses of people with gun permits. thumbs up, yes or no? good idea or bad idea? >> bad. >> on balance bad. >> you probably heard about this, a lot of outrage. one blogger decided to fight back, you wonder whether that's a good or bad idea as well, when we come back. nts that pink cast. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. aww man.
gregory used that magazine as a prop during an interview with the head of the nra, wayne lapierre but it's illegal to show them in public in washington even if they're not attached to a weapon. d.c. police says nbc asked if they could use the magazine on the show. they said no, but gregory did it anyway. >> interesting. >> gotten a lot of attention. >> quick show of hands, the newspaper, that published the name of the addresses of people with gun permits. thumbs up, yes or no?...
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the nra might say you're taking guns out of the good guys. >> well, the nra says a lot of things that doesn't pass the smell test for most of us. they said what we need are more good guys with guns. well, there are a lot of good guys with guns. we have a lot of good guys with guns, more than anyplace in the world, and we also have a lot of gun violence. >> reporter: a report found that guns likely to be used in crimes were unlikely to be turned in at gun buybacks. villaraigosa says since 2009 los angeles has collected 8,000 guns at buybacks, a period in which violent crime in the city has dropped by 33%. >> this is part of a much bigger effort, a comprehensive effort to address gun and gang violence. and like i said, in the city of l.a., the proof is in the pudding. >> reporter: the line of cars stretched for six blocks as people waited up to three hours to turn in their guns. >> me turning my rifles in now is my sympathy card to connecticut. >> reporter: so many people are turning in their guns here that lapd officials believe there will be their most successful gun buyback program e
the nra might say you're taking guns out of the good guys. >> well, the nra says a lot of things that doesn't pass the smell test for most of us. they said what we need are more good guys with guns. well, there are a lot of good guys with guns. we have a lot of good guys with guns, more than anyplace in the world, and we also have a lot of gun violence. >> reporter: a report found that guns likely to be used in crimes were unlikely to be turned in at gun buybacks. villaraigosa says...
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another teed off on comments made by the head of the nra, who told nbc's david gregory he favors armed guards at every school. >> i guess, you know, out of last week's bizarre press statement -- it wasn't a press conference -- i guess mr. lapierre would say that firefighters need to have armed guards go with them. i mean, i think it just shows that that was a completely dumb [ bleep ] idea from the start. we need to ban assault weapons, we need to ban the high-capacity clips and magazines. we need serious background information system upgrade. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our schools to protect our children, then call me crazy. i'll tell you what, the american people -- i think the american people think it's crazy not to do it. it's the one thing that would keep people safe. and the nra is going to try to do that. >> in the wake of recent shootings, a local new york newspaper is facing calls to pull an article. "the journal news" created a web feature showing the addresses of all handgun permit holders in westchester and rockland counties, just nort
another teed off on comments made by the head of the nra, who told nbc's david gregory he favors armed guards at every school. >> i guess, you know, out of last week's bizarre press statement -- it wasn't a press conference -- i guess mr. lapierre would say that firefighters need to have armed guards go with them. i mean, i think it just shows that that was a completely dumb [ bleep ] idea from the start. we need to ban assault weapons, we need to ban the high-capacity clips and...
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eastern on cnn newsroom, carol costello will talk with the nra president about gun rights in the wake of the newtown massacre. >>> sheer panic at a sacramento mall. just look at this. can you imagine that? police say a 20-person brawl broke out in the food court. during the fight there were reports of loud pops that sounded like gunfire. given what's been going on lately, you can imagine the terror there. the mall security director actually says there was no gunfire, no guns were recovered. three teens were arrested, the stores went into lockdown just in case. the mall reopened about an hour later, still trying to figure out the source of those popping sounds, but we'll keep you posted. but just look at that video, incredible. >>> coming up, new revelations about occupy wall street and what the fbi was doing to keep tabs on the movement. >>> plus, swamped in the street. how this bus ended up stuck in just a matter of seconds. we'll explain. >>> ali velshi in for soledad this morning -- >> talking about his post-christmas workout routine. >> coming up on "starting point" this morning,
eastern on cnn newsroom, carol costello will talk with the nra president about gun rights in the wake of the newtown massacre. >>> sheer panic at a sacramento mall. just look at this. can you imagine that? police say a 20-person brawl broke out in the food court. during the fight there were reports of loud pops that sounded like gunfire. given what's been going on lately, you can imagine the terror there. the mall security director actually says there was no gunfire, no guns were...
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tomorrow morning, the nra would be there every step of the way. every u.s. attorney. violent felon, violent criminal, take them off the street. look, if ever -- >> there's no new gun regulation you would support. >> this is what would work. if every -- >> i'm asking you a direct question. is there any new gun regulation you would be willing to support? >> i'm giving you the answer. >> you're saying we should prosecute more criminals. >> he did not go on to answer the question directly. we do know the answer, the national rifle association does not support any new gun regulations at all, period. end of story. or at least end of the nra's story, the real story of gun violence and some things you probably don't know about it is ahead. there's actually some good news here, or at least promising news, scouts honor. >>> there are 1,000 names for the -- before i choose a name, i >>> there are 1,000 names for the -- before i choose a name, i can't even tell you the thing i'm talking about, the fiscal stuff that's going to happen at the end of the year, and it will be bad. tha
tomorrow morning, the nra would be there every step of the way. every u.s. attorney. violent felon, violent criminal, take them off the street. look, if ever -- >> there's no new gun regulation you would support. >> this is what would work. if every -- >> i'm asking you a direct question. is there any new gun regulation you would be willing to support? >> i'm giving you the answer. >> you're saying we should prosecute more criminals. >> he did not go on to...
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meet the press" host david gregory could be in legal trouble following the sunday interview with the nra ceo wayne lapierre. he held up a 30-round gun magazine in the segment but it could have violated d.c. gun laws that read no person in the district shall possess, sell, transfer any large capacity ammunition feeding device regardless of whether the device is attached to a firearm. the "washington post" reports that nbc sought permission from authorities to use it but was denied. the d.c. police chief said we are investigating incident to determine if the magazine was in fact real. >>> one loud critic of the u.s. gun law is cnn host piers morgan. some in the u.s. are ready to send the british citizen packing. over 80,000 people signed requests on the white house petition site to deport morgan for engaging in "hostile attack" against the constitution targeting the second amendment. white house requires 25,000 signatures to garner a response. on twitter, more gone asked if i do get deported from america for wanting fewer gun murders are there any other countries that will have me? one of
meet the press" host david gregory could be in legal trouble following the sunday interview with the nra ceo wayne lapierre. he held up a 30-round gun magazine in the segment but it could have violated d.c. gun laws that read no person in the district shall possess, sell, transfer any large capacity ammunition feeding device regardless of whether the device is attached to a firearm. the "washington post" reports that nbc sought permission from authorities to use it but was...
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the nra might say you're just taking guns out of the hands of the good guys. >> well shgs , they said that what we need are more good guys with guns. well, there are a lot of good guys with guns. we have more good guys with guns than any place in the world, and we also have more gun violence. >> reporter: guns likely to be used in crimes are unlikely to be turned in at gun buy-backs. the mayor said since 2009, los angeles has collected 8,000 guns at buy-backs, a period in which violent crime in the city has dropped by 33%. >> this is part of a much bigger effort, a comprehensive effort to address gun and gang violence. and like i said in the city of la, the proof is in the pudding. >> reporter: the line of cars stretched for 6 blocks as people waited up to three hours to turn in their guns. >> it's my sympathy card to connecticut. >> reporter: many people are turning in their guns here that land officials expect this to be -- that lapd officials expect this to be their most successful buy-back ever. >>> president obama will spend the night aboard airforce 1 making a red-eye trip from
the nra might say you're just taking guns out of the hands of the good guys. >> well shgs , they said that what we need are more good guys with guns. well, there are a lot of good guys with guns. we have more good guys with guns than any place in the world, and we also have more gun violence. >> reporter: guns likely to be used in crimes are unlikely to be turned in at gun buy-backs. the mayor said since 2009, los angeles has collected 8,000 guns at buy-backs, a period in which...
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meet the press" host david gregory could be in legal trouble following the sunday interview with the nra ceo wayne lapierre. he held up a 30-round gun magazine in the segment but it could have violated d.c. gun laws that read no person in the district shall possess, sell, transfer any large capacity ammunition feeding device regardless of whether the device is attached to a firearm. the "washington post" reports that nbc sought permission from authorities to use it but was denied. the d.c. police chief said we are investigating incident to determine if the magazine was in fact real. >>> one loud critic of the u.s. gun law is cnn host piers morgan. some in the u.s. are ready to send the british citizen packing. over 80,000 people signed requests on the white house petition site to deport morgan for engaging in "hostile attack" against the constitution targeting the second amendment. white house requires 25,000 signatures to garner a response. on twitter, more gone asked if i do get deported from america for wanting fewer gun murders are there any other countries that will have me? one of
meet the press" host david gregory could be in legal trouble following the sunday interview with the nra ceo wayne lapierre. he held up a 30-round gun magazine in the segment but it could have violated d.c. gun laws that read no person in the district shall possess, sell, transfer any large capacity ammunition feeding device regardless of whether the device is attached to a firearm. the "washington post" reports that nbc sought permission from authorities to use it but was...
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when you see some say the nra cannot be saved. there is no messaging that will work for them at this point. the politics are against them. that's where they become desperate just like the tobacco lobbyists did when they were up against it. in the end the politics is not going to work for them on this track. and they're going to change. >> so we've -- between newtown and christmas eve, chances that we are going to get meaningful gun control yes or no, richard you first and then you julian. >> yes. >> julian? >> yes. particularly if there is a concerted movement over many months. >> it was a yes or no. it was just a yes or no. >> but there's a key proviseo. there. every time we've done this, the nra counts on the clock. that the public will shift attention over time. the key here is the public todays focused. but that's the key contingency. >> i think the sad reality of the christmas eve incident is that we'll continue to see gun violence. sadly there will continue to be examples that we can point to to try to keep the pressure on.
when you see some say the nra cannot be saved. there is no messaging that will work for them at this point. the politics are against them. that's where they become desperate just like the tobacco lobbyists did when they were up against it. in the end the politics is not going to work for them on this track. and they're going to change. >> so we've -- between newtown and christmas eve, chances that we are going to get meaningful gun control yes or no, richard you first and then you julian....
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laws in an interview with nra leaders? coming up next. >>> the syrian regime suffers another high level defection. lisa sylvester is monitoring that. >> well, syria's military police chief reportedly has fled to turkey on a scooter after plotting his escape for three weeks. in a video posted online, a man purporting to be the police chief accuses the government of carrying out massacres of innocent civilians and he says the military is nothing but armed gangs that kill. he says is he defecting to, quote, join the people's revolution. and the recovery in the housing market remains on pace. home prices rose 4.3% in october over last year, that is it the biggest percentage increase in more than two years. near record low mortgage rates and fewer foreclosures are helping spur sale which is in turn is boosting prices. and the world's longest high speed rail line is up and running and it's in, where else, china. the 1428 mile line spans more than half the country linking the capital of beijing to the southern chinese bloom city.
laws in an interview with nra leaders? coming up next. >>> the syrian regime suffers another high level defection. lisa sylvester is monitoring that. >> well, syria's military police chief reportedly has fled to turkey on a scooter after plotting his escape for three weeks. in a video posted online, a man purporting to be the police chief accuses the government of carrying out massacres of innocent civilians and he says the military is nothing but armed gangs that kill. he says...
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massive public pressure, the republicans are going to continue to the enablers of violence, namely the nra, which simply represents the gun manufacturers, which are really the merchants of death, to use a phrase from an earlier era. >> congressman jerry nadler of new york, thank you so much for being on the program. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> now to what congress will do the rest of this week, including the cliff negotiations. i'm joined by jonathan weissman of the new york times, great reporter, my colleague on the hill, thank you so much for being here. back to the cliff and guns on nadler, sherman was here saying there is some talk amongst leadership, but i keep beating this like a drum, doesn't seem to be any urgency on capitol hill. >> i was talking to some senators this morning, when are you going to get back into town? oh, you know, maybe tomorrow night we'll kind of come in. president obama will be coming in tomorrow night. doesn't seem the level of urgency that you would think, given that in five, six days these things are going to hit. and i think it's because they reall
massive public pressure, the republicans are going to continue to the enablers of violence, namely the nra, which simply represents the gun manufacturers, which are really the merchants of death, to use a phrase from an earlier era. >> congressman jerry nadler of new york, thank you so much for being on the program. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> now to what congress will do the rest of this week, including the cliff negotiations. i'm joined by jonathan weissman of the...
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let's look just briefly on what is on the nra's basic score card agenda. this is how they assess members, oppose closing the so-called terror gap. they oppose closing the gun show loophole. they support an amendment that makes it harder to trace guns specifically used in crimes that would be not law-abiding gun use. they would support amendments to carry guns on amtrak, national parks and bars and what i would call the notorious stand your ground legislation. do you think that agenda, if it has more exposure in this debate, i mean if the president read off those things in the state of the union, do you think that would drive a wedge between the average gun owner and the nra's national agenda? >> it would start a debate. look, it's not the job of reporters to carry one side of an argument. if the nra is making an argument and no one is making one against them, it has a consequence for the debate. what the gun control side has lacked for a long time is a powerful grassroots group that actually has the muscle and the money to force the conversation, to force
let's look just briefly on what is on the nra's basic score card agenda. this is how they assess members, oppose closing the so-called terror gap. they oppose closing the gun show loophole. they support an amendment that makes it harder to trace guns specifically used in crimes that would be not law-abiding gun use. they would support amendments to carry guns on amtrak, national parks and bars and what i would call the notorious stand your ground legislation. do you think that agenda, if it has...
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i think the nra argument seems to be gun control isn't perfect. won't stop all crime so let's not have any gun control but if you applied that to anything else, you substitute gun for anything else, like drugs, for example, nobody would say, drug laws are imperfect. so let's not have any laws against drugs. the idea you can't create a perfect law so criminals get access and make it easy for them doesn't make sense. the point of gun control is to make it more difficult to get the weapons. why reason earth would we make it easier for them? >> no perfect answers for this and probably continue to debate this in the new year. my thanks to you all three. lynn, keith and alice, i appreciate all of your time. >> thank you. >>> next, a not so merry cliff-mas for retailers or wall street. how the stalled negotiations are already impacting this economy. >>> and a big question to you, are you optimistic that congress can reach a post-christmas fiscal cliff deal? tweet me. find me on facebook. people really love snapshot from progressive, but don't just listen
i think the nra argument seems to be gun control isn't perfect. won't stop all crime so let's not have any gun control but if you applied that to anything else, you substitute gun for anything else, like drugs, for example, nobody would say, drug laws are imperfect. so let's not have any laws against drugs. the idea you can't create a perfect law so criminals get access and make it easy for them doesn't make sense. the point of gun control is to make it more difficult to get the weapons. why...
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i don't think the nra is listening. i don't think they understand. most persons would protect the second amendment rights and yet agree with the idea that not every human being should own a gun, not every gun should be available for anyone anywhere anytime. they're looking for a common sense approach that says that those doing it right should be able to own a weapon but it should not be extended to everyone, every time for every type of weapon. >>> thank you very much frank. >> pleasure merry christmas to you. >> we're learning disturbing new details today. michelle miller has the story of a man that murderinjured two firefighters murdered two others and killed his sister as well. >>> it was a trap set by william spangler. >> we're being shot at multiple firemen down multiple firemen shot. >> in a scenario that seems beyond comprehension, they're saying they found a note he left. >> he was going to burn as many houses as possible and do what he really liked to do which was kill people. seven homes burned down. combing through the crime scene, they sa
i don't think the nra is listening. i don't think they understand. most persons would protect the second amendment rights and yet agree with the idea that not every human being should own a gun, not every gun should be available for anyone anywhere anytime. they're looking for a common sense approach that says that those doing it right should be able to own a weapon but it should not be extended to everyone, every time for every type of weapon. >>> thank you very much frank. >>...
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i don't think this is one of them. >> and you mentioned the nra. it is still a powerful lobbying group. and the more time that passes, memories fade, even though it was a terrible tragedy in newtown. do you really think that anything will be done, really? >> i hope so, carol. i can't tell you that i know for sure. i've seen this happen just as you have. people are passionate about this issue until they see the opposition raise their ugly head. we saw this -- i authored with don parata in the legislature in the late 1990s, the california assault weapons ban, also the saturday night special bill. we have very tough gun laws. we still have crimes, yes. but there's no question that they've helped to address some of the violence in our country. and i hope that we do act. we need to kt a. there are a lot of things that we could do to toughen our gun laws that are sensible and responsible. and the vast majority of people would agree on. >> mayor antonio villaraigosa, thank you so much for joining us this morning. >> thank you, carol. >>> let's shift gears
i don't think this is one of them. >> and you mentioned the nra. it is still a powerful lobbying group. and the more time that passes, memories fade, even though it was a terrible tragedy in newtown. do you really think that anything will be done, really? >> i hope so, carol. i can't tell you that i know for sure. i've seen this happen just as you have. people are passionate about this issue until they see the opposition raise their ugly head. we saw this -- i authored with don...
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gregory was asking the nra chief if banning high capacity clips would make a difference in gun control and murders. washington, d.c. police are now investigating, they say it is illegal in washington to be in possession of a clip more than ten rounds. there it is. >>> new controversy over a gun-training program for teachers in two u.s. states, utah and kansas, offering free permit courses as well as mass violence response training. they're the only two states that allow individuals with concealed weapon permits to carry their guns to school. the move comes as several groups push to arm teachers in the wake of the school shooting. critics argue this could lead to more violence. patti ann: holiday travelers bracing for a messy day at the airports and on the roads as a severe winter storm now heads toward the east coast. up to a foot of snow expected in some areas, and yvonne mann joining us from wxin in indianapolis. yvonne? >> reporter: it is downright brutal out here right now. these wind gusts are just beating at us all morning, and the snow is just getting worse. you can see just the
gregory was asking the nra chief if banning high capacity clips would make a difference in gun control and murders. washington, d.c. police are now investigating, they say it is illegal in washington to be in possession of a clip more than ten rounds. there it is. >>> new controversy over a gun-training program for teachers in two u.s. states, utah and kansas, offering free permit courses as well as mass violence response training. they're the only two states that allow individuals...
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. >>> republican congressman ron paul blasting the nra's plan for armed guards at every school. on his website he says, absolute safety is unattainable and pursuing it gives the government way too much control over people's lives. he also criticized those who called for more gun control laws after the shootings. he said, criminals just don't obey the laws. >>> america lost one of its most beloved actors, jack klugman has died. he was in the show "quincy." but he was best known for his role as the sloppy, cigar-chomping sports writer in "the odd couple." a show that never really took off with audiences until years after it ended in reruns and on nick at night. here he is with larry king back in 2004. >> never below. we're never above 45 were we were tony was so worried. i said, listen to the audience how they're laughing. >> you were never a hit. >> never, never. >> klugman was once a five-pack-a-day smoker and heaven chully lost his voice to throat cancer in the '80s but taught himself how to speak again. his son says he died with his wife by his side on christmas eve. klugman w
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how would the nra proposal work and who is going to pay for it? >> wayne lapeer the ceo of the nr. >> a says the group is proposing a voluntary program that would allow schools to bring in retired police, military or secret service agents to provide armed security. he says that will quote immediately make our children safe. what every mom and dad will make them feel better when they drop their kid off in school in january is if we have a police officer in that school, a good guy that if some horrible monster tries to do something they will be there. >> lapeer says the nra is working with former republican congressman and former deputy director asa hutchinson to develop a more security program that would include how it's paid for. >> jamie: certainly in the senate the democrats are in control. they have the white house too with president obama. how are they reacting to this? >> on the capitol hill the reaction has been less than enthusiastic especially from democrats. here is more. >> well, i think is he so extreme and so tone deaf that he actually
how would the nra proposal work and who is going to pay for it? >> wayne lapeer the ceo of the nr. >> a says the group is proposing a voluntary program that would allow schools to bring in retired police, military or secret service agents to provide armed security. he says that will quote immediately make our children safe. what every mom and dad will make them feel better when they drop their kid off in school in january is if we have a police officer in that school, a good guy...
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if past is prologue, where is the nra's next move going forward? >> well, you know, i think that's a good question because past may not be prologue here. the past was that the obama administration saw absolutely no chance of getting this flew congress. president obama when he campaigned for his first term, said he would like to look at reveezing the assault weapons ban. the white house sent some gentle signal early on they might try to do that, and it was instantly clear that they backed away from it. the mere prospect of president obama's being elected caused a huge run on ammunition, police departments were almost running out of it. now many democrats think the situation is different because of newtown and the other mass shootings this year, so i guess we're going to find out whether past is prologue. things have -- things may have changed. we're going to have to see how much they have. >> senators kay bailey hutchison and mark warren yesterday segment nauling their willing tons talk about this, and most likely the conversation leading itself to
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. >> reporter: laperriere says the nra hired former republican congressman asa hutchinson to develop a more in depth security plan for schools. hutchison, a also former deputy director of the department of homeland security, compares this debate to the debate over armed federal air marshals. >> it increased safety of airlines. it is not like it is an armed camp when you go on airlines. it is very discrete use of armed guards that has a presence there to protect america. our children less important to protect than our air transportation? i don't think so. >> reporter: but the reaction on capitol hill has been less than enthusiastic it especially from democrats. california democratic senator dianne feinstein calls it, a quote, delay tactic. others suggested that laperriere's plan might have the opposite effect on lawmakers. >> well i think he is so extreme and so tone deaf that he actually helps the cause of us passing sensible gun legislation in the congress. >> we have 10,000 elementary and secondary schools in this country. if you had two officers in each that would cost $25 billion
. >> reporter: laperriere says the nra hired former republican congressman asa hutchinson to develop a more in depth security plan for schools. hutchison, a also former deputy director of the department of homeland security, compares this debate to the debate over armed federal air marshals. >> it increased safety of airlines. it is not like it is an armed camp when you go on airlines. it is very discrete use of armed guards that has a presence there to protect america. our children...
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>>> plus the nra's double down. the organization's ceo says if it's crazy to arm police in school, then call him crazy. >> i know there's a media machine in this country that wants to blame guns every time something happens. i know there's an anti-second amendment instrument in this town. >>> but first eight days until the fiscal cliff deadlines, through the has of congress not a creature is stirring, not even a lawmakers. hopes of a deal are fading. before taking off, the president urged congress that pass a scaled-back stop-gap measure. >> senators agreed on sunday to pass -- >> i think unfortunately there will only be a small deal. >> it is going to be a patch. >> kristin welker, traveling with the president in honolulu. the question is will he be cutting hi vacation short? does he have a royal to play? or is it up to the senate, as some are saying? >> reporter: first of all, i think it is likely we'll see him cut his vacation short. senate majority leader harry reid, minority leader mitch mcconnell will have to
>>> plus the nra's double down. the organization's ceo says if it's crazy to arm police in school, then call him crazy. >> i know there's a media machine in this country that wants to blame guns every time something happens. i know there's an anti-second amendment instrument in this town. >>> but first eight days until the fiscal cliff deadlines, through the has of congress not a creature is stirring, not even a lawmakers. hopes of a deal are fading. before taking off,...
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the nra uses the media to spread its message, to raise money. that's what it is, it's a lobbying money-raising organization that gets political clout to give money to political people to give them big money to spread the message. to blame the media but it has nothing to do with using the implements of murder which have nothing to do witness. but the media that we use in a first amendment righted country to spread news, to give information, that is the culprit? out of touch. kelly: jim i was struck by what he said blaming the media and actually going out and reporting these facts that do take place, to let the american people what is going on, albeit it's very tragic and there have been copy-cats out there, but to blame the media out there. >> that is exactly right. there have been copy-cats out there. there has been kind of an iconic pre verse celebration of some of these killers who are sort of famous. there have been four movies made about the thrill killer, charles starkweather from the 1950s. four movies. i think another part of it is the im
the nra uses the media to spread its message, to raise money. that's what it is, it's a lobbying money-raising organization that gets political clout to give money to political people to give them big money to spread the message. to blame the media but it has nothing to do with using the implements of murder which have nothing to do witness. but the media that we use in a first amendment righted country to spread news, to give information, that is the culprit? out of touch. kelly: jim i was...
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>>> right now, sticking to his guns, the head of the nra refuses to back down on his opposition to any new gun laws. >>> plus the countdown to cliff-mas. >>> i believe the president is eager to go over theically for political purposes, he sense as victory at the bottom of the cliff. >> while they're miles apart on the cliff, lawmakers on both sides of the aisle go a distance to say a final good-bye to a friend and a giant of the senate, senator inouye. >>> first at the top of the hour, at least two firefighters were killed after arriving at the scene of a fire. two other fire fighters were also wounded. at this point it's unknown how many shooters were involved. the firefighters were forced to retreat. they were not able to put the flames out. at least three homes and one vehicle are burning. firefighters are calling them a complete lost. the police chief says it's still an active crime scene. we have this from a reporter a bit earlier from the crime scene. okay. that is not the right piece of sound firefighters, again, involved in that. >>> now to the top of the block and the stories
>>> right now, sticking to his guns, the head of the nra refuses to back down on his opposition to any new gun laws. >>> plus the countdown to cliff-mas. >>> i believe the president is eager to go over theically for political purposes, he sense as victory at the bottom of the cliff. >> while they're miles apart on the cliff, lawmakers on both sides of the aisle go a distance to say a final good-bye to a friend and a giant of the senate, senator inouye....
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it's the one thing that would keep people safe, and the nra is going to try do that. david: joining us now is david katz, a former u.s. federal agent and the ceo of global security group. david, is he nuts for calling for this? >> no he's not. he's not doing a great job with the pr campaign. david: what should he be doing that he's not? >> number one, the nra needs to be committed to a dialogue where they discuss these issues and most importantly, the people who are calling for gun control legislation, they need to understand that there is nothing they can craft, no words, no verbiage that is going to prevent a guy like adam lanza from getting into a school and shooting children. it is not going to happen. there are other steps that need to be taken. david: like? >> number one, you need to have meaningful security at the front door. lanza was apparently able to break his way in. that's unacceptable. the door needs to resist what's called determined force entry attempts and the amount of time it takes -- david: some kind of wire meshing or bullet-proof glass? >> yes, t
it's the one thing that would keep people safe, and the nra is going to try do that. david: joining us now is david katz, a former u.s. federal agent and the ceo of global security group. david, is he nuts for calling for this? >> no he's not. he's not doing a great job with the pr campaign. david: what should he be doing that he's not? >> number one, the nra needs to be committed to a dialogue where they discuss these issues and most importantly, the people who are calling for gun...